they're still very much into the legacy of communist party. so i think, you know, whether it's this generation or next generaon, i personally don't see much of a fundamental change, but i do see -- >> rose: in termof theattitude - >> the style, the attitude, the education. i think you would get more or less very similar style. >> rose: you don't have the samn leadership and the public at large that you have, say, in the united states. >> uh-huh. >> rose: no one suggest that iso become or evolving to become the same kind of western democracy that we have here, but what is it becoming, in your judgment? >> i don't know. there's no word to describe it. you know, to a lot of people, china is still, you know, socialism, socialt, and yet it is not, for the one that live there, work the, and we know how much freedom we do have.